Picture of Senge's Disciplines? LO6970

William J. Hobler, Jr. (bhobler@cpcug.org)
Thu, 25 Apr 1996 05:39:55 -0400

Replying to LO6874 --

John Fullerton wrote

>I understand that shared vision is not necessarily seeing what is
>there now, so maybe input for systems thinking wouldn't come from
>shared vision. The graphic Bill drew shows more relations between the
>disciplines than mine.

Thank you John for your insight. What I was trying to depict in the
drawing was the relationship of the influence of one discipline on
another. I have not seriously thought about how one discipline is
dependent upon another.

Whenever I start thinking about dependencies I run head up against the
thought that systems thinking has been around for a long time. I studied
it in 1975. Must we have a shared vision for systems thinking to occur?
Or, is the practice of self mastery needed to be able to deal with mental
models? Well, in truth people arrive at some level of self mastery
without engaging in a set of exercises to examine the self. And, system
thinking occurs without people sitting down with an agenda item that says:

1:00 pm to 2:30pm Systems Thinking

So, what has to be in place for the discipline to be practiced? Or more
importantly, what has to be in place for the discipline to be
*effectively* practiced?

IMHO the dependencies have been discussed in this forum, the challenge is
to image them.


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