First Principles of LO LO11716

J.C. Lelie (
Wed, 08 Jan 1997 00:31:12 -0800

Replying to LO11664 -- wrote:

> With the above in mind, I have always struggled to understand how the Five
> Disciplines comprise a set that emanates from some principle. They feel
> somewhat random to me.

Me too. But Peter is such a good communicator, speaker and writer, that i
don't care. Besides, if there are underlying principles, which there
probably are, they would work with every manifestation. The same goes for
TQM: another application of the principles, different shape.

> If I were to take up a quest for
> finding first principles of organizational learning, I would start with
> organizations (or analogous systems) that are accomplishing this and, like
> the mathematician who has coined a new, predictable operation, try to
> describe why, and under what conditions, that operation is successful.
> Has anyone out there tried to do this?

I didn't, but it might work. I search for the principles inside myself.
Same principles, different shape. I also search in books (like
Machiavelli's 'The Prince'(Il Principe):-)) and this list. It is also why
i call my work 'logistical de-veloping': trying to remove layer after
layer in search of principles. That is the nice thing about principles:
same principles, always around, different shape, different form.


PS Drs is about the same as MSc or MBA, not Dr or Dr s


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