Cooperation vs Competition LO6558

Andrew Moreno (amoreno@broken.ranch.org)
Wed, 10 Apr 1996 02:25:37 -0700 (PDT)

Replying to LO6527 --

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 RonDavison@aol.com wrote:
> It takes a great deal of DNA to form a gazelle out of
> single-cell organisms.


Good message.

I was wondering about some things and have a few questions. I have some
beliefs I have to get around and I think the answers might help. I've got
some preliminary answers in brackets. 

[Some of my figures may be wrong. I hope I have the order of magnitude
right. I was also wondering, if I want to figure out the number of
connections between a grid of 10 nodes do I just square the 10 or do I add
the squares of 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1? In the first case, the
square of 10 is 100. In the second case, it's 300 I think. Makes a
difference.]

How much information can be stored in DNA?

[I've read about biocomputers in "The Economist" that are supposed to be a
trillion times faster than any present computer. Does that mean they have
a trillion times as much storage too? That would mean they would have a
trillion times a thousand terabytes?]

[I've read about holographic optical storage developed a BELLCORE that has
potential storage densities of 16 terabytes per 1 cm^3 cube - a sugar cube
sized cube.]

Does anyone know the names of the numbers for each of the exponents up
from 10^0 to 10^100? If you have any names for numbers greater than
exponent 100, great! 

[10^0 - One - 1 
 10^1 - Ten - 10
 10^2 - Hundred - 100
 10^3 - Thousand - 1000
 10^4 - Ten Thousand - 10 000
 10^5 - Hundred Thousand - 100 000
 10^6 - Million
 10^7 - Ten Million - 10 000 000
 10^8 - Hundred Million - 100 000 000
 10^9 - Billion - 1 000 000 000
 10^12 - Trillion - 1 000 000 000 000
 ....
 10^99 - ?????? - ......
 10^100 - Google - 10 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 
000 000]

How many potential connections are there when 6.7 billion people get on 
the internet?
[Talk about composite team mind! 10^6 people - 1 million - 10^36 
connections. 10^7 people - 10 million - 10^49 connections. The Internet 
already has 100 million people - 10^8 people - 100 000 000 - 10^64 
connections..... So, 10 billion people - 10^10 people - 10^100 
connections - a google's worth of connections - 10 000 000 000 000 000 
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000]


How much time does a downsized white-collar worker have?

[60 sec/min - 60 min/hour - 3600 seconds/hour
86400 sec/day
31 536 000 sec/year]

How much information does a web surfer that surfs for 30 days at 10 hours 
a day 3600 seconds/hour go through per baud rate?

[x  2 400	       -     2 592 200 000 -     2.5922 GBytes
 x  9 600              -    10 368 000 000 -    10.368  GBytes
 x 14 400	       -    15 552 000 000 -    15.552  GBytes
 x 28 800              -    31 104 000 000 -    31.104  GBytes]

How much information does a web surfer that surfs for a conservative 
figure of 37.7 months - 1130 days on and off in a total period of 60 
months - 5 years - 30 days/month at 10 hours a day go through per baud 
rate [40 680 000 s]?

[x  2 400              -    97 632 000 000 -    97.632  GBytes
 x  9 600              -   390 528 000 000 -   390.528  GBytes
 x 14 400              -   585 792 000 000 -   585.792  GBytes
 x 28 800              - 1 171 584 000 000 - 1 171.584  GBytes]

How much data is flowing through listservs right now?
[Estimated 32 000 listservs at 1 mb/month - 12 mb/year - 384 000 mb/year 
- 384 000 000 000 bytes - 384 Gbytes/year]

How many books and the equivalent in data would someone have to 
read/learn to get degrees for all the fields listed in the University of 
London and it's colleges?
[Estimated 100 Bachelor's degree's - 120 S.U.'s per bachelor's degree - 4 
years per bachelor's degree - 50 MB of material for each bachelor's 
degree - 104 books at 300k/book so......... 
100 Bachelor's degree's 12 000 S.U.'s - 400 years - 5000 MB of material - 
10400 books

Estimated 100 Master's degree's - 60 S.U.'s per master's degree - 2 years 
per master's degree - 25 MB of material (field specific information) for 
each master's degree - 52 books at 300k/book so........
100 Master's degree's - 6 000 S.U.'s - 200 years - 2500 MB of material - 
5200 books

100 PhD fields - 4 years per PhD degree - 50 MB of material (field 
specific information) for each PhD degree - 104 books at 300k/book 
so......
100 PhD degree's 12 000 S.U.'s - 400 years - 5000 MB of material - 
10400 books]

How many books are in the University of London and its college libraries 
and what is the equivalent in data?

[         30 Books - 300 K -        10 MB -        10 000 000 Bytes
         213 Books - 300 K -        64 MB -        64 000 000 Bytes
       4 000 Books - 300 K -     1 200 MB -     1 200 000 000 Bytes
      10 650 Books - 300 K -     3 200 MB -     3 200 000 000 Bytes
      31 950 Books - 300 K -     9 600 MB -     9 600 000 000 Bytes
     320 000 Books - 300 K -   100 000 MB -   100 000 000 000 Bytes
     640 000 Books - 300 K -   200 000 MB -   200 000 000 000 Bytes
   3 200 000 Books - 300 K - 1 000 000 MB - 1 000 000 000 000 Bytes

How many containers does it take to store 3.2 million books - 1 
million megabytes - 1 terabyte of books?

[  1 container   -    20 000 books - 6 GB
 160 container's - 3 200 000 books - 1 TB]

How much new knowledge would be created by someone going for a PhD in 
all 100 fields at the University of London and it's colleges (based on 
the premise that a doctoral degree is not awarded on _prior_ learning 
but on creation of new knowledge and advancement of a field).

[100 fields - 600K worth of new knowledge - 60 000 K - 60 MB of new 
knowledge?]

Does anyone know how much money there is in the world?

[I know US and Japanese GNP/year is around 13 trillion combined. 
The total value of all US real estate is 9 billion. 
Assets of that new bank in Japan that was recently formed from an 
alliance of two existing banks is around 1 trillion. 
Estimated assets of overseas Chinese is 1 trillion dollars. 
Estimated value of infrastructure projects in SE Asia is 25 trillion 
dollars!!!! (Talk about a huge market for systems thinkers and 
double-loop learning practitioners considering the possibility that Dr. 
Khalid Saeed (PhD MIT) at AIT is the only systems dynamics practitioner 
in the area!) 
6.7 billion people with average yearly income of around $10 000 is around 
70 trillion dollars per year.

So my guess at total money in the world is..... at most a million 
trillion dollars???? 1 000 000 000 000 000 000???? Potential 1 billion
billionaires???? What are they going to do with all those flows of money 
from satisfied customers? _Build space stations!!!!_]

So I'd appreciate it if anyone can answer my questions....

Andrew Moreno
amoreno@broken.ranch.org
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