It's not just semantics LO6361

Dr. Scott J. Simmerman (
01 Apr 96 18:01:45 EST

Replying to LO6320 --

Archie Kregear shared a common belief that we all have heard
before. He wrote on empowerment in LO6320,

>It was once told to me that, "Good people are found, not
>changed." And it may be easier to find employees with the
>qualities you mention above rather than attempt to train them.

Yes, I used to believe the same thing. And then I tried to
connect it to our theories about Learning Organizations and hit
the wall. That was that Thump you heard last evening.

So, I ask you:

How much learning can a Learning Organization learn if a learning
individual can't learn learning? (I thought of the old wood chuck
chunking parable of our youth)?

Then I remember, "The teacher hasn't taught if the student hasn't
learned" and the postings of Rodger Bailey on the presuppositions
of NLP in regards to communications.

I am a strong believer in the positive intentions of people, that
each of us tries to do the best that we can under the conditions
(mental, physical, emotional, etc,) in which we operate.

Everyone wants what is best for their organizations and this forum
-- we all do.

But our belief systems can get in the way of development of our
own ideas and the skills / talents / learning of others. Thus the
paradox. This issues of human capital and empowerment are tough
ones for us Learning Organizationers, thus my dilemma in the
initial posting on how defining the behaviors were such a
difficult task for me and my colleagues.

Most Importantly:
In a similar vein, Rodger related some of the presuppositions of
NLP -- a set of beliefs that all of us trained in that technology
find useful and practical. Maybe Rodger would share his thoughts
on the other presuppositions.

And maybe we in this Forum might develop and share a similar set
as it relates to what this Learning Organization Thang (as they
say in Texas) is all about.

For the Fun of It!


Scott Simmerman Performance Management Company, Taylors SC USA 29687-6624

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