It's not just semantics LO6471

randy bennett (
Sat, 6 Apr 1996 08:14:17 -0600

Replying to LO6361 --

I liked what you had to say. Another part is the assumption that people
really want to learn in the first place even if they could and that is not
always the case. Education, learning, like anything else is a chosen

At 06:01 PM 4/1/96 EST, you wrote:
>Replying to LO6320 --
>Archie Kregear shared a common belief that we all have heard
>before. He wrote on empowerment in LO6320,
>>It was once told to me that, "Good people are found, not
>>changed." And it may be easier to find employees with the
>>qualities you mention above rather than attempt to train them.
> (snip)
>Yes, I used to believe the same thing. And then I tried to
>connect it to our theories about Learning Organizations and hit
>the wall. That was that Thump you heard last evening.
>So, I ask you:
>How much learning can a Learning Organization learn if a learning
>individual can't learn learning? (I thought of the old wood chuck
>chunking parable of our youth)?
>Then I remember, "The teacher hasn't taught if the student hasn't
>learned" and the postings of Rodger Bailey on the presuppositions
>of NLP in regards to communications.
>I am a strong believer in the positive intentions of people, that
>each of us tries to do the best that we can under the conditions
>(mental, physical, emotional, etc,) in which we operate.
>Everyone wants what is best for their organizations and this forum
>-- we all do.
>But our belief systems can get in the way of development of our
>own ideas and the skills / talents / learning of others. Thus the
>paradox. This issues of human capital and empowerment are tough
>ones for us Learning Organizationers, thus my dilemma in the
>initial posting on how defining the behaviors were such a
>difficult task for me and my colleagues.
>Most Importantly:
>In a similar vein, Rodger related some of the presuppositions of
>NLP -- a set of beliefs that all of us trained in that technology
>find useful and practical. Maybe Rodger would share his thoughts
>on the other presuppositions.
>And maybe we in this Forum might develop and share a similar set
>as it relates to what this Learning Organization Thang (as they
>say in Texas) is all about.
>For the Fun of It!
>Scott Simmerman

[Host's Note: Please quote *just enough* of the prior msg to make the
connection. I'd trim the above quote, but don't know where to cut.]


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