Re: Dialog on list

Kenn R. Fagans (
Mon, 21 Nov 1994 12:14:57 -0700 (MST)

Mr. Barclay,

Reading your posts and the threads that follow them is a most enjoyable
experience. I have a tendency to agree with the philosophical approach of
your linguistic opponents, and frequently have the urge to "pick up the
pen" to criticize both the style and the content of your messages.

Much of my limited experience with folks who "play" with learning
organizations indicates a desire for the learning to take place in a
"come, let us reason together" environment rather than one of spirited
debate. As much as I enjoy the opportunity to creatively explore new
ideas in an atmosphere free of criticism and hostile challenge, I must
admit that those environments seem to "run out of gas" and tend toward
"group think".

Just for the record ---

I believe there is an intrinsic flaw in using "management" computer
simulations to teach "management" skills. The better the simulation
models "reality" the greater the risk that the "map" gets confused with
the "territory". If our intent is to teach strategic thinking perhaps we
could be using models that don't require "business" tactics.

As for Tony Robbins, I concede that he has done little to support his
work in tems of "research" and therefore I am wary of his "model". On the
other hand, much of what he says fits well into my "rational model" of
the world and I choose not to dismiss it entirely.

One final note ---

T H A N K Y O U ! ! !

Kenn R. Fagans                       
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