Organization of a LO LO7649

William J. Hobler, Jr (
Tue, 28 May 1996 21:23:25 -0400

Replying to LO7624 --

Michael McMaster wrote

>I think that manage implies force. My evidence is that we think the
>work won't get done unless managers or someone brings some force to
>bear and hence need systems beyond those described above.

If there is force in managing I think it is very small since I think
managing is more counting beans and checking off check lists than anything
else. Forcing an action is, to me, a failure of leadership. Now as a
father of four I admit to many failures of leadership. But we did manage
to get food on the table.

I define managing as accomplishing those non-value adding things that have
to be done. It is the submission of the form that assures a regulator
that you are following the rules. (Whether or not you are.)


A leader is best when people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, who talks little, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say, "We did this ourselves." "The Way"

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