Will Sr. Managers Change? LO6977

Virginia I. Shafer (vshafer@AZStarNet.com)
Thu, 25 Apr 1996 08:46:37 -0700 (MST)

Replying to LO6948 --

Archie Kreager says:

> > after having nine different managers in the last 4.5 years, what can
> > we conclude? The Sr. Managers that I have seen in the past few
> > years have done more to hinder the work of the business as they have
> > to help it.

And Gary replied:

> I think it's significant that Archie's had NINE different manager in
> 4.5 years! Those managers are playing the old business games and
> haven't recognized the new rules. Unless they rethink their positions
> and start playing by the new rules, there'll be another new manager in
> the position before too long.


I would like to know from Archie, do you understand why the tremendous
turnover in your manager's position? Is it considered a training
position? Do people move up? Out? Over? Was their departure the result
of "failure," or by design (which are sometimes one and the same, aren't

I'd like to foot stomp the point a few of us made--how are tomorrow's
senior managers/leaders being trained today? This whole topic of "how do
you get someone to change" keeps popping up under different subject
lines--we obviously don't have a shared understanding of the process.
I'll leave you with a quote:

"You can send a message around the world in one-seventh of a second, but
it may take years for it to get from the outside of a man's head to the
inside." Charles Franklin Kettering



Ginger Shafer The Leadership Dimension "Bringing Leadership to Life" vshafer@azstarnet.com

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