Levels of Learning LO4524

Andrew Moreno (amoreno@broken.ranch.org)
Sun, 31 Dec 1995 18:54:53 -0800 (PST)

Replying to LO4514 --

On Sun, 31 Dec 1995 mbayers@mmm.com wrote:

> Then he develops his ideas of levels of learning, rather parallel to
> Russell's Theory of Logical Types (no class can be a member of itself).

Thank you. I've been looking for a reference to Logical Types. I want to
learn logical typing because it's part of what an unnamed person in
Washington D.C. with a PhD from Columbia wants to charge me $30 000 to
learn (and not necessarily learn HOW to do).

> made, or it is a change in how the sequence of experience is
> punctuated.

Right, a rehash. The order is changed.

> Learning Four would be change in Learning Three, but probably does not
> occur in any adult living organism on this earth."

I've heard it does occur in a few adult living organisms (not me, yet).
This is just rumour, mind you, but who knows?

The closest metaphor I can find to learning 4 that involves external
technology are the coming tools called "gene sequencers" that biohackers
will use to create new life forms.

> Incidentally, _Steps to An Ecology of Mind_ was copyrighted in 1972, and
> this particular chapter comes from a presentation Bateson made in 1969.

It must have been really interesting to be able to talk to Bateson about
this stuff.

> understand much at all when I first plowed through it maybe fifteen years
> ago.

Yes, it is very deep.

> And I do think that Argyris's double-loop learning and Bateson's Learning
> Level Two are quite closely aligned.

This wasn't orginally my idea, I learned it from Mark McKergow in the UK
who wrote a paper for the British Journal Organisation and People Vol. 1
No. 1 on this topic. I tried e-mailing him for info on obtaining a copy
that he said was available by e-mail but he hasn't responded yet.
Mark McKergow 100116.537@compuserve.com

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Andrew Moreno
amoreno@broken.ranch.org