Thank you Ivan. Yes, it helped, but I'd like to explore deeper than
decision making in dialogue.
This is not directed to you Ivan, but just me getting wierd again! And
ask what is the ultimate aim of "Holistic" thinking?
You wrote:
>I think that most of the mistakes one makes are somewhat based on
>the right/wrong prejudgement. When one sees an event or situation with
>that preconceived notion of righ or wrong, one see only a part of the
>whole. SO one cannot really make a sound decision.
If I start with conflicting views of an event this is the process:
Event-->Pre-judgements (part/reaction)-->Suspension-->Dialogue(whole)-->
Decision(win/win)-->Response (most right/least wrong for all)
This process takes individual judgement of an event and moves it to
collective judgement of right/wrong. So it still studies events as
right/wrong judgements.
But what if an event simply happens?
The Oklahoma bombing.
Family picnic.
Vietnam.
WWII.
Clinton wins.
A woman is caught in adultery.
Couple celebrates their 50th Wedding anniversary.
A woman aborts a living embryo.
A baby is born.
A man makes an omlette with an egg (chicken embryo.)
Hitler kills millions.
Jesus nailed to a cross.
The roof caves in on Job's entire family.
Serial Killer is put to death.
A wedding.
A divorce.
Which ones are "good" events and which ones are "bad" event from a
"Holistic" perspective? How do I just study events without right/wrong
judgments?
Each of us has been conditioned to make pre-judgements. The popular
bumber sticker "Shit happens" is part of that conditioning. Our
civilization depends on us judging these events as "shit or not shit" and
taking corrective action based on collective rule-based ethics or
conditioned thinking. Holistically, shit happens to be used for
fertilizer too! Is there a non rule-based ethic? An unconditioned way of
thinking? If so, how do I uncondition my conditioned thinking?
This weekend I listened to tapes by David Steindl-Rast on "Living in the
Now." As I understand it, when one lives in the "Now" he sees all
experience or events simply as a gift...not something to react to in
time...unconditioned thinking. Which is more rational, unconditioned
thinking("gift") or conditioned thinking (ego-"right/wrong?")
Is living in the now the ultimate aim of "Holistic" thinking? The "cause
and effect" of the about events may be seen differently in the short-term
vs. the long-term. In the now, they are seen simply as "is."
Jesus came so that those who "see" would become blind. St. Augustine said
simply "Love and do as you please." Perfect love "casts out" fear. Be ye
perfect (unconditioned) as your father in heaven is perfect
(unconditioned.) This is the Great Adventure into the glorious unknown.
Have a Great Adventure!
Don Kerr
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