Or should this be religion and the 5th discipline?
[Host's Note: A couple of msgs back in this thread, I began making
exactly this change in the subject line. ...Rick]
Bill Hobler wrote
"John Paul Fullerton posted a deeply felt and well documented comparison
that closely equates the Fifth Discipline with Christian beliefs. As a
Christian I am uncomfortable with the post, perhaps it is my problem.
"My discomfort is rooted in awareness that the five disciplines can be
found in all major religious and philosophies. In fact the Eastern
religions probably place more emphasis on self mastery than does Christian
practice or thought.
"I would like the subject of this thread widened to seek parallelisms with
Hindu, Buddhism, and Islamic thought. IMO this would add richness and
value to this thread and to an understanding of the human journey
envisioned in the Fifth Discipline."
As someone unable to accept one religion as 'more right' than another and
hence a self-confessed and content atheist I agree the last two paragraphs
and had resolved to stay off the thread unless it expanded in the
direction of embracing other religous thought. Thanks Bill.
>From where I observe the world all these and other religions have provided
a large part of the attractors which enabled certain societies and a large
part of the bloodshed as [some of] their adherents sought to impose their
own version of righteousness on others. [And this is not intended as a
criticism. I am aware of the members of all these religions who have
opposed such acts of imposition].
I wonder to myself whether it is possible to get the same 'cohesion'
around 'shared human values', to exert the same force on people minds,
without reliance on religion. Some would call it secular humanism. I am
also interested in whether there is possibly something richer which I can
only label as secular spiritualism.
If Price
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