LO a means or an end? LO6303

Dr. Scott J. Simmerman (74170.1061@compuserve.com)
29 Mar 96 18:31:21 EST

Replying to LO6266 --

Replying to LO6236 and Gene's question,

> "to lead, without anyone knowing your leading, so individuals
> believe they
> are leading themselves."

>Michael McMaster added in LO 06266,

> I think the word, in English, is "manipulation".

We're now opening a real can of worms for the linguists among us
because of the root word "man" common to many of our terms like
management and manipulation. The NLP literature has been racked
by decades of discussions like, "Isn't NLP manipulative?" and
responses like, "Then why would we want to do sales training or
management development if we wern't out to change people's
behaviors..." ad infinitum.

The operable word here should be (or at least include) *intention*
and I will assume that Gene's intention was positive and the goal
is to generate active involvement, alignment to shared values with
leadership, and participative involvement and ownership.

And, judging from Michael's many previous postings, his intention
is positive in pointing out that getting someone to do something
of which they are "unaware" is not honest and is manipulative.

Oh me, oh my. Where will this all end?

Let's get on with the belief that the corporation's goal is to
sustain itself, that leaders DO want to have positive impacts and
leave a legacy of positive regard. that of course some people are
sociopathic meglomaniacs but most certainly not anyone in this
forum, and that generating involvement, behavioral change and
readiness to learn will all have positive impacts on our
children's children.

It reminds me of a story:
This one boy had a trick he played over and over on another child
who everyone thought was a bit slow. He would hold a nickel in
one hand and a dime in the other and ask the other boy which one
he wanted. The kid always took the nickel, which would cause the
first boy to laugh. This occurred over and over.

Finally, a parent went up to the boy who always picked the nickel
and told him that the dime was actually worth twice as much as the
nickel, that he should take the smaller dime next time.

"Why?" says the kid. "Then he'll stop playing this game."

Who is really managing / manipulating whom? And is this a
discussion with the possibilities of closure?

For the Fun of It!


Scott Simmerman Performance Management Company, Taylors SC 29687-6624 74170.1061@compuserve.com

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