Dennett's Dangerous Idea LO5387

Sanjeev N Khadilkar (
Tue, 6 Feb 96 18:58:06+050

Replying to LO5352 --

ref. LO5230,5248,5270,5305,5345,5352

So we have at least four kinds of learning going on:

- individual learning

- understanding each other

- changes to the "mental books"
(standard operating procedures)
of the organization

- changes to organizational structure

Are there any other kinds of learning?

What would best support each kind of learning?


---------- (Sanjeev N Khadilkar) Thu, 1 Feb 96 11:58:33+050

In the context of LOs, one can now ask: Is there a critical mass and
structure that has to be reached before an organization becomes an LO? Can
an organization learn at a level greater than its members do? Or is all
learning grounded in individual learning?
Doug Seeley <> 02 Feb 96 10:38:00 EST

The only autonomy which I can see surviving this co-option of
consciousness, is that which inherently pledges allegiance to the primacy
of an objective, material realty. This puts a cap upon the Learning
Organization by constraining the learning experiences of its individuals,
and hence limiting what can emerge in response to the organizations

For me, it is the unique individual whose fundamental subjectivity is what
becomes empowered independent of any outside authority (although
encouraged by supportive environments)...
...For me,
personal growth and hence personal mastery means the devolution of all my
victim stances and hende co-dependencies.
John Paul Fullerton <JPF6745@ACS.TAMU.EDU> Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:12:30 -0600 (CST)

The other day, I remembered the phrase "put everthing else out of your
mind". The resulting thought was that of the "hearer" who has mental
things that he or she can arrange, for example mental books in the mind.
The hearer can put those books away and listen to what is being said right
now. The hearer may also be thought to not actually consist of everything
they've ever heard or learned. Some of that information is just a "mental
book" that can be put "out of mind".

The opportunity of the learning organization is presented through such a
venue. When I increase in understanding and learned expertise and the
preparedness of learning, my value to the company and my options increase,
and the company's capability to add value, to perceive opportunity, and to
produce more and better increases.
---------- (John Woods) Sun, 4 Feb 1996 21:48:07 -0600 (CST)

We may
come to see that what we explore are not things, but relationships,
especially the relationships we have devised for ourselves and all the
other stuff of the world...
...And this opens us up to the
learning that comes with new experience as we seek to (1) refine our
understanding of our subjective views, and (2) acknowledge and affirm the
subjective views of others.

Sanjeev N. Khadilkar
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