Downsizing Literature LO4396

Andrew Moreno (amoreno@broken.ranch.org)
Fri, 22 Dec 1995 05:10:15 -0800 (PST)

Replying to LO4372 --

On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Ray Evans Harrell wrote:

> >Andrew Moreno wrote:
> >> Many of the models for thinking and working that we
> compose are based upon two dimensional diagrams. (snip)

Hank Heath wrote this comment.

> I have with Andrew's solution to the
> bureaucratic authoritarianism.
>
> Become your own authority and own property:
>
> <Automate their thought contributions in software,
> patent them and then sell the software to corporations
> and then work as external consultants to facilitate
> application and usage of the software.>
>
> I have an inherent problem with inhibiting the free flow of ideas,
> (Thinker Turf) whether artistic or of necessary hardware on the internet.
>
> The temptation for the bureaucratic company is to steal the information
> from it's thinkers and make them into "slaves."

> If, in order to compete in this bureaucratic structure, "Thinkers" figure
> out ways to patent and charge for everything , even "going to the John,"
> eventually the drain clogs up and nothing moves until there is a war to
> dislodge it.

> Thinkers are
> VALUE-ABLE, not as products but as holistic systems that are capable of
> flexibility, change and improvisation.

I still think "thinkers" should automate and sell their contributions.

If the thinkers automate "content," then I agree with your reservations.
Content is learning I according to Bateson.

If the thinkers automate "process," then I don't agree with your
reservations. Process is a set of tools that can generate learning on
levels 1-4 depending on their precision according to me.

The following may be controversial statements but I'll make them anyway;
the precision of process is based on whether application of the process
"works" or not. "Does it get the desired results? is an important
question." If the process doesn't get the desired results, it should be
thrown out. Process is different from theory. Theory is about explaining
WHY the process works.

Applying process enables people to begin or continue to;
think holistically
think critically
increase capabilities
decentralize power by transfering skills at using process to others

So, a question is, how do we know when something is process, as opposed to
content? It's easy to confuse logical levels, especially in this industry
of learning organization facilitators, where process IS the content as
someone has already elucidated quite astutely.

Andrew Moreno

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Andrew Moreno <amoreno@broken.ranch.org>